If you hadn’t heard, ESPN’s E:60 recently released a piece on the low wages of UFC fighters. Dana White understandably livid, responds with their side of the story, even exposing ESPN as doing what they accuse the UFC of doing, paying extreme low wages.

The video above that White released gives you a 12-minute break down of the business side of fighter payouts, including vouches from UFC fighters Chuck Liddell, Matt Serra, Forest Griffin and more.